A quote from Linus Torvalds
- ID: 686686b8
- 原文链接: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Aug/22/linus-torvalds/
- 作者: Simon Willison(引 Linus Torvalds)
- 日期: 2026-08-22
- 分类: coding
- 来源类型: article
- 标签: linux, linus-torvalds, ai-debugging, kernel, drm
- 质量评分: 3/5
- 抓取时间: 2026-08-23T15:45:00Z
中文导读
Linus 在 Linux drm/xe 提交 818bebeb63dd(“Don't hand out the flat CCS storage as usable VRAM”)的 commit message 里写道:这次“地狱级调试”大量靠 AI 干脏活;他本想叫 AI“不知疲倦的助手”,但 AI 好几次直说“这不可能、解不开,写个报告收工吧”。他怀疑这些模型是被“没那么倔的人”训练出来的;不过只要他坚持推,AI 就继续老老实实加打印代码、分析结果,所以功劳照给——连这条 commit message 本身也是让 AI 起草的。
为什么值得关注
一次带真实样本的“AI 会被劝退、但可以被人类推回去”现场记录,来自内核最高强度的调试一线,比抽象讨论 agent 自主性更有抓手;对设计 agent 工作流的人,它提示“坚持追问 + 提供新观测手段(加打印)”仍是撬动模型持续投入的有效杠杆。
关键信息
- 来源:Linux kernel commit 818bebeb63dd6bf5f4e07e145f6cdbace520a34c(drm/xe 子系统)
- 主题:不要把 flat CCS storage 当作可用 VRAM 分发
- AI 行为:多次声称无解、建议写报告;被推动后持续加打印并分析
- commit message 本身由 AI 起草
English Summary
Torvalds on a drm/xe commit: a debug session from hell, enormously helped by an AI doing the grunt work — an AI that several times flatly declared the problem impossible and suggested writing a report instead. He suspects it was trained by less stubborn people; pushed anyway, it kept faithfully adding debug code and analyzing, so he let it write the commit message too.
原文要点摘录
And this was a debug session from hell, enormously helped by an AI doing much of the grunt-work.
I'd like to call it my tireless helper, but the AI several times stated flat out that this was impossible and unsolvable and that we should just write a report about it. … But while the AI was ready to give up several times, it did keep adding debug code and analyzing it faithfully when I pushed. — Linus Torvalds
Obsidian Notes
- 内容由 opencli web read 抓取 simonwillison.net 原文生成(2026-08-23)。
- 候选来源:AK-RSS Digest 2026-08-23(评分 7.3);引文锚定 Linux commit 818bebeb63dd 的 commit message。